Does NC Soft remove items? - Guild Wars Forums

GoF · Nov 24, 2010, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Hello

I'm pretty sure people reported (= may not be true, but still...) that NC Soft removes items after they got banned for RMT, while it wasn't true and then unbanned. It's important and I can't find posts with that kind of saying.

Would anyone please help find me some examples?
Don't try to understand why I need this, I'm not banned, but need to know

GoF

Arduin · Nov 24, 2010, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Never heard of NCSoft removing items after banning. Most often accounts involving RMT and the like just gets closed. In case that ban was unwarranted, that account gets re-instated and as far as I know, all stuff will still be there.

There were even some incidents where items were duplicated, and I believe those duped items are still ingame. NCSoft/Anet hasn't got the manpower to track every bit of those shady items.

*Darcy* · Nov 24, 2010, 11:08 AM // 11:08

ArenaNet just blocks accounts for RMT or botters. There is no need to remove items. The only unblocked accounts with missing items were the victims of hackers. As for finding such accusations on the forums, I have no idea what search terms you would use.

Bellatrixa · Nov 24, 2010, 11:51 AM // 11:51

I wouldn't see the point in removing items on a banned account. I mean, if they were BANNED, the items would no longer be in circulation. It's not like we're talking about an IP ban, it's an account ban meaning that the account is no longer accessible. If the person is found innocent, then why go through the hassle of restoring items to that account? Makes more sense not to delete them in the first place.

GoF · Nov 24, 2010, 01:10 PM // 13:10

I obviously didn't bookmark every time I saw a post about this on Guru, but after some search this is what I found:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...0372258p3.html
Post 53 & Post 99

So nobody else has examples?
Whether it's true or not, examples of people saying these kind of things (removing and adding items) are welcome

Iuris · Nov 24, 2010, 02:43 PM // 14:43

You sure you're not mistaking it for instances of people getting their accounts hijacked and then having to go through support to get them back, only to find the one who hijacked the account stripped it of valuables?

Kronk_Shaan · Nov 24, 2010, 03:04 PM // 15:04

I had my storage account banned for a week once, and they said it was for RMT. The account is in my guild, so I can see if anyone else logs it in, so I know it hasn't been hacked. After not putting items on it for 2 weeks, I logged in and got the message that I had been banned, but I only trade between my primary and it, so no idea what they thought I had done. The only thing I noticed was that the 7 plat that had been on that account had been taken. Everything else was there. I asked support and they said that if you are trading real money for game money, you will be banned and they will remove whatever they suspect you bought with real money. Problem was that I didn't do any gold buying and they still wouldn't return my 7 plat. I was just glad I wasn't storing large sums of cash on that account.

insanethemadone · Nov 24, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29

They do remove plat from your account.I got wrongfully banned once for some RMT bs and they removed 100k, once i got in touch with them i got my ban lifted and i got the plat back so yea they remove items, they think are obtained by breaking any rules.
PS. i can provide proof if needed

Iuris · Nov 24, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by insanethemadone

They do remove plat from your account.I got wrongfully banned once for some RMT bs and they removed 100k, once i got in touch with them i got my ban lifted and i got the plat back so yea they remove items, they think are obtained by breaking any rules.
PS. i can provide proof if needed

Actually, I'd like that. Please do. It'll broaden our knowledge of NC/Anet practical experiences.

Star_Jewel · Nov 24, 2010, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by Kronk_Shaan

Problem was that I didn't do any gold buying and they still wouldn't return my 7 plat.

7 plat? Who would buy 7 plat?

Quote:

Originally Posted by insanethemadone

They do remove plat from your account.I got wrongfully banned once for some RMT bs and they removed 100k, once i got in touch with them i got my ban lifted and i got the plat back so yea they remove items, they think are obtained by breaking any rules.
PS. i can provide proof if needed

I'm assuming there was a stretch of time that you had your account back before you got the money back...?
I'd like to see details, too. This practice is news to me.

domaspiragas · Nov 24, 2010, 06:51 PM // 18:51

They remove gold from accounts only if it's a temporary ban for RMT. Other than that, I don't think that they remove items from accounts.

insanethemadone · Nov 24, 2010, 06:55 PM // 18:55

They removed 100k and 2 titan gems i think (not sure about the gems tho)
Pics of the email:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4103/gw101.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2750/gw2l.jpg
There was a day or two before i got my gold back but about the gems , i was middle of a foundry run (running pugs) i had 2 gems in my inv and once i was able to log in again those were gone if my memory serves me right

Iuris · Nov 24, 2010, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Interesting. I wonder how this was done. Anet denies the ability to spawn ingame items, so maybe the gold is different, or they can do partial rollbacks.

GoF · Nov 24, 2010, 11:01 PM // 23:01

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Originally Posted by Iuris

Interesting. I wonder how this was done. Anet denies the ability to spawn ingame items, so maybe the gold is different, or they can do partial rollbacks.

Considering the fact that they can reward people with contest prizes (minis, everlasting tonics, ..), that doesn't surprise me at all.

Thank you for the screenshots

Yawgmoth · Nov 25, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Gold is not an item, it's just a number on the account or character file. They can add or remove gold but they cannot generate items on the live servers. Contest prizes are different - they are rewarded as unlock codes (to be entered manually or applied directly to the winning account).

GoF · Nov 25, 2010, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Gold is not an item, it's just a number on the account or character file. They can add or remove gold but they cannot generate items on the live servers. Contest prizes are different - they are rewarded as unlock codes (to be entered manually or applied directly to the winning account).

I didn't think about this, I take back what I said.
More "proof" of them removing or adding stuff to your accounts?

Nov 24, 2010, 08:17 AM // 08:17	#1
GoF Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: Mo/	Does NC Soft remove items? Hello I'm pretty sure people reported (= may not be true, but still...) that NC Soft removes items after they got banned for RMT, while it wasn't true and then unbanned. It's important and I can't find posts with that kind of saying. Would anyone please help find me some examples? Don't try to understand why I need this, I'm not banned, but need to know GoF

Nov 24, 2010, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#12
insanethemadone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2009	They removed 100k and 2 titan gems i think (not sure about the gems tho) Pics of the email: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4103/gw101.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2750/gw2l.jpg There was a day or two before i got my gold back but about the gems , i was middle of a foundry run (running pugs) i had 2 gems in my inv and once i was able to log in again those were gone if my memory serves me right Last edited by insanethemadone; Nov 24, 2010 at 06:58 PM // 18:58..

Nov 24, 2010, 10:49 AM // 10:49	#2
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	Never heard of NCSoft removing items after banning. Most often accounts involving RMT and the like just gets closed. In case that ban was unwarranted, that account gets re-instated and as far as I know, all stuff will still be there. There were even some incidents where items were duplicated, and I believe those duped items are still ingame. NCSoft/Anet hasn't got the manpower to track every bit of those shady items.

Nov 24, 2010, 11:08 AM // 11:08	#3
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	ArenaNet just blocks accounts for RMT or botters. There is no need to remove items. The only unblocked accounts with missing items were the victims of hackers. As for finding such accusations on the forums, I have no idea what search terms you would use.

Nov 24, 2010, 11:51 AM // 11:51	#4
Bellatrixa Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n Guild: Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM] Profession: N/	I wouldn't see the point in removing items on a banned account. I mean, if they were BANNED, the items would no longer be in circulation. It's not like we're talking about an IP ban, it's an account ban meaning that the account is no longer accessible. If the person is found innocent, then why go through the hassle of restoring items to that account? Makes more sense not to delete them in the first place.

Nov 24, 2010, 01:10 PM // 13:10	#5
GoF Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: Mo/	I obviously didn't bookmark every time I saw a post about this on Guru, but after some search this is what I found: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...0372258p3.html Post 53 & Post 99 So nobody else has examples? Whether it's true or not, examples of people saying these kind of things (removing and adding items) are welcome

Nov 24, 2010, 02:43 PM // 14:43	#6
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	You sure you're not mistaking it for instances of people getting their accounts hijacked and then having to go through support to get them back, only to find the one who hijacked the account stripped it of valuables?

Nov 24, 2010, 03:04 PM // 15:04	#7
Kronk_Shaan Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Missouri Guild: Is it Friday Yet? (HI) Profession: Mo/	I had my storage account banned for a week once, and they said it was for RMT. The account is in my guild, so I can see if anyone else logs it in, so I know it hasn't been hacked. After not putting items on it for 2 weeks, I logged in and got the message that I had been banned, but I only trade between my primary and it, so no idea what they thought I had done. The only thing I noticed was that the 7 plat that had been on that account had been taken. Everything else was there. I asked support and they said that if you are trading real money for game money, you will be banned and they will remove whatever they suspect you bought with real money. Problem was that I didn't do any gold buying and they still wouldn't return my 7 plat. I was just glad I wasn't storing large sums of cash on that account.

Nov 24, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29	#8
insanethemadone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2009	They do remove plat from your account.I got wrongfully banned once for some RMT bs and they removed 100k, once i got in touch with them i got my ban lifted and i got the plat back so yea they remove items, they think are obtained by breaking any rules. PS. i can provide proof if needed

Nov 24, 2010, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#11
domaspiragas Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2010 Guild: Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR] Profession: D/E	They remove gold from accounts only if it's a temporary ban for RMT. Other than that, I don't think that they remove items from accounts.

Nov 24, 2010, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#13
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Interesting. I wonder how this was done. Anet denies the ability to spawn ingame items, so maybe the gold is different, or they can do partial rollbacks.

Nov 25, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#15
Yawgmoth Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005	Gold is not an item, it's just a number on the account or character file. They can add or remove gold but they cannot generate items on the live servers. Contest prizes are different - they are rewarded as unlock codes (to be entered manually or applied directly to the winning account).